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Thanks for the posts from D.Oz, and others.

I have to be in Orlando on a specific day this summer, so, that's that. Actually never been to Florida other than during the summer, just somehow has always worked out that way. For years, too, I found myself in Arizona only in the dead of summer.

At DisneyLand last time we were there, you could pay for MaxPass although it didn't reduce the actual wait time at all, just allowed you to spend some of the wait time for one attraction every couple or hours or so, not standing in the actual line. I imagine Disneyland was sued over letting anyone at all bypass lines, because even those who manage to get a disability pass (based not on physical mobility but on mental issues that lead to "freak outs" if forced to stand in line too long) just get a sort of free MaxPass access to select rides.

That's right if you are in a wheelchair you may wait in line just like everyone else, but if you're autistic to the point where you start batting the side of your head and screaming like the RainMan if left to stand in line too long, Disneyland will cut you some slack.

Universal Studios in Universal City - the physically disabled go right to the front of all lines.

I have read that DisneyWorld lines are the shortest in the month of July?

If we get those four day passes will they include the MaxPass? DisneyLand at least the last time we were there had no "front of line passes" at all. I believe you are talking about Genie + and Lightning Lane entry at DIsneyWorld, D.Oz?

I think four days at DisneyWorld will suffice. We've never spent more than a full day at DisneyLand.

I have one day of business in Orlando, the rest of the time we'll go to DisneyWorld and sight see. It'll be a week in Orlando. We've been to Universal Studios and Sea World in California more than a few times each, but Disneyland is the one we keep going back to, so I'm not sure if we will go to other than DisneyWorld.

Maybe rent the car one way on the day of departing Orlando for the drive to Miami Beach, and keep the car while there until we fly back.

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Thanks for the posts from D.Oz, and others.

I have to be in Orlando on a specific day this summer, so, that's that. Actually never been to Florida other than during the summer, just somehow has always worked out that way. For years, too, I found myself in Arizona only in the dead of summer.

At DisneyLand last time we were there, you could pay for MaxPass although it didn't reduce the actual wait time at all, just allowed you to spend some of the wait time for one attraction every couple or hours or so, not standing in the actual line. I imagine Disneyland was sued over letting anyone at all bypass lines, because even those who manage to get a disability pass (based not on physical mobility but on mental issues that lead to "freak outs" if forced to stand in line too long) just get a sort of free MaxPass access to select rides.

That's right if you are in a wheelchair you may wait in line just like everyone else, but if you're autistic to the point where you start batting the side of your head and screaming like the RainMan if left to stand in line too long, Disneyland will cut you some slack.

Universal Studios in Universal City - the physically disabled go right to the front of all lines.

I have read that DisneyWorld lines are the shortest in the month of July?

If we get those four day passes will they include the MaxPass? DisneyLand at least the last time we were there had no "front of line passes" at all.

I think four days at DisneyWorld will suffice. We've never spent more than a full day at DisneyLand.

I have one day of business in Orlando, the rest of the time we'll go to DisneyWorld and sight see. It'll be a week in Orlando. We've been to Universal Studios and Sea World in California more than a few times each, but Disneyland is the one we keep going back to, so I'm not sure if we will go to other than DisneyWorld.

Maybe rent the car one way on the day of departing Orlando for the drive to Miami Beach, and keep the car while there until we fly back.
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I got a front of line med pass when visiting Disney World confined ro a wheelchair due to a bad ankle

They recently had a hullabaloo due to realizing that unscrupulous people were simply bringing wheel chairs without disabilities to obtain front of line passes

While I never resorted to that I certainly THOUGHT of that. I did resort to inviting a certain family member along with disabilities so the family could get the passes (they granted the whole family the pass to keep then together. The only restriction was the disabled party had to actually go on the ride. So there was a bit of coaxing on our part to get them.to go on certain rides they didn't really wish to go on).

ANYWAY comparing either of the two parks, Disney or Universal in California to the ones is Florida regarding size and viewing ability is a waste of time. The Florida parks are much more huge.

It's like saying you beat up one brother Danny Devito, how much more difficult will it be to beat up the other brother (Arnold Schwarzenegger).

You can visit their website of course for a look at all the rides, shows, and attractions they offer. I think with a limited time to visit that is your best bet. You may even see there is so much you decide to stay longer.

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I usually go in the fall or winter. If you know what you're doing you'll never have to wait in line for more than 20 minutes or so for most rides.
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20 minutes!?! I never wait in line for anything for 20 minutes, the longest line I'll wait is if it has has two people in front of me. If I have to go to the grocery store I'll do it at 1:30 p.m. on a Tuesday because there's never anybody there. I have abandoned a cart of groceries more than once in a grocery store because I didn't want to wait in line. I never go inside the bank if the drive-thrus are empty. I don't have to worry about restaurants because I never eat there anymore, the last restaurant I was at was probably 2 years before the pandemic. I like buffets because you can go get your food immediately and there's no waiting. People don't realize how much of their lives they spend waiting.
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Most of us would consider abandoning a cart of groceries we had spent valuable time picking out as the actual waste. Especially since at some point the exercise will have to be repeated.

Reminds me of that old joke about the guy who swims 75% across a pool and getting tired, swims back!

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I was at DisneyLand once with someone who had a DMV handicap placard and was prepared to show it but was told that none of that mattered. "May we get you a wheelchair?" They don't want to see any medical records apparently. The way it works at DisneyLand is the guest has a "conversation" with a staff who then decides solely based on what is said whether the guest qualifies for DAS (Disability Access Service).

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/guest-services/disability-access-service/

DAS doesn’t provide immediate access to experiences, but rather allows Guests to request a return time for a specific experience that is comparable to the current standby wait.

But even so, all DAS gets a person at DisneyLand is a free sort of MaxPass, where the line wait time remains the same but the wait is spent outside of the line, until the app calls the guest to show up and go to near the front of the line. It might seem like the line is bypassed, but it is not - the wait time is merely spent other than in the actual line.

Universal Studios on the other hand actually lets anyone who gets a disability pass, which over there is based on mobility, to go right to the front of the line. At least that is the way it was last time we were at Univ Studios, because one of our guests actually was recovering from an injury and got that pass, which got all of us (a group of four) to the front of all lines.

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I was at DisneyLand once with someone who had a DMV handicap placard and was prepared to show it but was told that none of that mattered. "May we get you a wheelchair?" They don't want to see any medical records apparently. The way it works at DisneyLand is the guest has a "conversation" with a staff who then decides solely based on what is said whether the guest qualifies for DAS (Disability Access Service).

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/guest-services/disability-access-service/

DAS doesn’t provide immediate access to experiences, but rather allows Guests to request a return time for a specific experience that is comparable to the current standby wait.

But even so, all DAS gets a person at DisneyLand is a free sort of MaxPass, where the line wait time remains the same but the wait is spent outside of the line, until the app calls the guest to show up and go to near the front of the line. It might seem like the line is bypassed, but it is not - the wait time is merely spent other than in the actual line.

Universal Studios on the other hand actual lets anyone who gets a disability pass, which over there is based on mobility, to go right to the front of the line. At least that is the way it was last time we were at Univ Studios, because one of our guests actually was recovering from an injury and got that pass, which got all of us (a group of four) to the front of all lines.
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For me it was at Disney World I got the pass for my ankle. This would be circa 2004. Things may have changed.

The relative I bring along is autistic and a minor. It wasn't an issue to get front of line passes.

I do believe, now that you mention it, that it amounted to a maxpass in essence but without the 3 ride limit. So still quite valuable.

Bottom line is amusem*nt parks and lines are somewhat synonymous. People going to amusem*nt parks who have zero tolerance for long lines should stay out of them.

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To get the ideal "VIP" treatment at Disney resorts then, one needs both an autistic (or feigned autistic) in the group and a MaxPass (called Genie + at the 'World). Between the two, you'll be darting between rides and not feeling like you're waiting at all, even though by the park's absolute criteria, you are.

Anyway, I've locked in the accommodations and flights, haven't bought the Disney tickets yet I threw that on my wife to research it, as I need to get to work a little harder than usual for a couple days.

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I have read that DisneyWorld lines are the shortest in the month of July?

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My brother-in-law died of heat stroke in Florida in July 2 years ago while mowing his lawn on a riding lawn mower. I posted about it here. That's why the lines are short in Florida in July.

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To get the ideal "VIP" treatment at Disney resorts then, one needs both an autistic (or feigned autistic) in the group and a MaxPass (called Genie + at the 'World). Between the two, you'll be darting between rides and not feeling like you're waiting at all, even though by the park's absolute criteria, you are.

Anyway, I've locked in the accommodations and flights, haven't bought the Disney tickets yet I threw that on my wife to research it, as I need to get to work a little harder than usual for a couple days.
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Well whatever the shrewdness of bringing along an autistic child to skip lines, I still had one and gave him a wonderful day at Disney. My conscience is clear.

As for July lines, that seems to be the latest phenomenon but wasn't always that way. People tired of long lines in July switched to September and October which used to have such small lines that I actually went one year twice on each ride without getting out of my seat!! That would be back in the early nineties.

The day with the shortest lines is any day a hurricane hits and the park has not closed. And yes one year I had the bad luck to be there during a hurricane. Water and outdoor rides were shut down but there are so many indoor rides, it was just a matter of getting soaked while running from ride to ride. Ultimately we had a good time!

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To get the ideal "VIP" treatment at Disney resorts then, one needs both an autistic (or feigned autistic) in the group and a MaxPass (called Genie + at the 'World). Between the two, you'll be darting between rides and not feeling like you're waiting at all, even though by the park's absolute criteria, you are.

Anyway, I've locked in the accommodations and flights, haven't bought the Disney tickets yet I threw that on my wife to research it, as I need to get to work a little harder than usual for a couple days.
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I have a friend that’s a member of the 33 Club and he gets a certain number of VIP Tours a year. He let me use one when I went with my family and another family (it’s for up to 10 people) and it was awesome. A Disney tour guide takes you around, you skip all the lines, can park hop and go in areas not usually open to the public. Probably got to hit 3 times the rides and activities we would have been able to do without the VIP tour guide.

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I have abandoned a cart of groceries more than once in a grocery store because I didn't want to wait in line.
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So you had to waste even more time going back at a later point to get those groceries instead of waiting a few extra minutes in line the first time? How is that more efficient?

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20 minutes!?! I never wait in line for anything for 20 minutes,

Just set your clock ahead 20 minutes. Isn't that your "AP move" to get extra time in the day? LOL